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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:13 PM

Alright, in regards to all these map rotation threads, this is my humble suggestion and after presenting my idea in TS they told me to go make another thread so here it is.

You cannot make everyone happy with the rotation and everyone will always bitch about why this map is in and why this map isn't. So heres my solution for this:

Put every map in EXCEPT for Shipment and Killhouse. The only reason these maps are excluded are because they are small for 36 man server. The deal with this solution is that you CANNOT start saying okay lets just leave this one out, because then someone will bitch.

Also if you want to add a map twice go ahead, a couple maps DESERVE being in there twice, such as: Strike and Crash and Crossfire. But no map should be in there 3 times. But the main thing is to put ALL MAPS IN and say deal with it. Because that way it might be your most hated map like Showdown/Creek, but then it could be a great map after like Crash/Strike.

Anyways I'll see what you all think.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:18 PM

View PostQuagmire, on 31 July 2010 - 10:13 PM, said:

Alright, in regards to all these map rotation threads, this is my humble suggestion and after presenting my idea in TS they told me to go make another thread so here it is.

You cannot make everyone happy with the rotation and everyone will always bitch about why this map is in and why this map isn't. So heres my solution for this:

Put every map in EXCEPT for Shipment and Killhouse. The only reason these maps are excluded are because they are small for 36 man server. The deal with this solution is that you CANNOT start saying okay lets just leave this one out, because then someone will bitch.

Also if you want to add a map twice go ahead, a couple maps DESERVE being in there twice, such as: Strike and Crash and Crossfire. But no map should be in there 3 times. But the main thing is to put ALL MAPS IN and say deal with it. Because that way it might be your most hated map like Showdown/Creek, but then it could be a great map after like Crash/Strike.

Anyways I'll see what you all think.





I for one entirely agree with this. every map except for shipment and kill house, also make sure to follow a map like creek with something like vacant.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:18 PM

We NEED wetwork, and I like killhouse for S&D. But I pretty much agree with you.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:22 PM

As he said, he brought this up in ts and ATLEAST 5 of use strongly agreed. You can NEVER make every1 happy! So, rather than only having the few maps that almost every1 likes, why not just have them all!

Every map that is some persons most hated map is going to be somebody's favorite. Perfect example, most people hate downpour, but it's one of my favorite maps in this game.

Anyways, I think that this is probably the best solution all around. Now it just comes down to which maps are in more than once, and more importantly, the ORDER of the map rotation.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:27 PM

Agreed, Wetworks and downpour should at least be added if you don't want to follow quags post. but add them!! :)
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:28 PM

wetwork would be a good map but the idea about no killhouse or shipment is great! I hate playing a map where you spawn and just get shot within 5 secs! Great Idea!
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 04:58 AM

View PostBad Boy*, on 01 August 2010 - 06:28 AM, said:

I hate playing a map where you spawn and just get shot within 5 secs! Great Idea!


Like ambush?

Anyways, Quag has a good point that all maps = no bitching. Also a good pointer, killhouse & shipment = not REALLY suitable for a 36 manned server. Third pointer, when a truly horrid map is on (such as bog, creek or wetworks [though I personally think wetworks would make a refreshing twist to the rotation]) instead of bitching people just leave the server.

What I've seen happen is this (in another well known server):

A lot of players playing a map then downpour pops in the cycle. Suddenly you have a 7 vs 7 map. Wait wut
Same with Bog

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 12:44 PM

The key to this will be alternating maps of different popularities and styles.
In other words, put a crash after a creek. Dont put 2 sniper friendly maps together etc.


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Posted 01 August 2010 - 12:50 PM

View PostSmigley, on 01 August 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

The key to this will be alternating maps of different popularities and styles.
In other words, put a crash after a creek. Dont put 2 sniper friendly maps together etc.



You sir, are 100% correct

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 02:03 PM

View PostSmigley, on 01 August 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

The key to this will be alternating maps of different popularities and styles.
In other words, put a crash after a creek. Dont put 2 sniper friendly maps together etc.




OMG! Smig actually said something smart as an admin...

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

Everyone bitches about every map rotation.. So the final solution will be bitched upon as well. I'm fine with Shipment and Showdown.. Lol. And Kill house.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:20 PM

Just put all the maps in. Put them in alphabetical order without maps being repeated
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:47 PM

Make shipment and killhouse as Knife ONLY maps. Its fun to have knife only sometimes.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 06:04 PM

NONONONONONO NO NO and no!



the point is being missed, shipment and killhouse are too small for 36 people, not to mention the complete lack of being tactical,


i stand by quagmires original suggestion, put all maps except these two in and take care to follow a mostly disliked map like creek with a mostly liked map like vacant.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 06:08 PM

View PostIgor_INFDEL, on 01 August 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

Make shipment and killhouse as Knife ONLY maps. Its fun to have knife only sometimes.


If the admins/facils want a Knife only they can switch it to one of these maps and do a Knife only, having these maps in the rotation just plain and simple isn't tactical, they are too small

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:55 AM

View PostIgor_INFDEL, on 02 August 2010 - 07:47 AM, said:

Make shipment and killhouse as Knife ONLY maps. Its fun to have knife only sometimes.


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:55 AM

View PostQuagmire, on 01 August 2010 - 05:13 AM, said:

Alright, in regards to all these map rotation threads, this is my humble suggestion and after presenting my idea in TS they told me to go make another thread so here it is.

You cannot make everyone happy with the rotation and everyone will always bitch about why this map is in and why this map isn't. So heres my solution for this:

Put every map in EXCEPT for Shipment and Killhouse. The only reason these maps are excluded are because they are small for 36 man server. The deal with this solution is that you CANNOT start saying okay lets just leave this one out, because then someone will bitch.

Also if you want to add a map twice go ahead, a couple maps DESERVE being in there twice, such as: Strike and Crash and Crossfire. But no map should be in there 3 times. But the main thing is to put ALL MAPS IN and say deal with it. Because that way it might be your most hated map like Showdown/Creek, but then it could be a great map after like Crash/Strike.

Anyways I'll see what you all think.


100% agree, very good suggestion!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:24 PM

New rotation draft 1:
Crash 
Bloc
Crossfire 
Convoy 
Strike 
Vacant 
Broadcast 
District 
Showdown 
Crash 
Broadcast 
Backlot 
Countdown 
Vacant 
Strike 
Overgrown 
Carentan
Crash 
Crossfire 
Downpour
Backlot 
Strike 
Showdown 
District 

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:29 PM

View PostHawk, on 02 August 2010 - 10:24 PM, said:

New rotation draft 1:


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:49 PM

And showdown is in there too many times
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